this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
tec "I understand this. I also understand that what was 'beaten into you from birth' can be very loud... and perhaps got in the way of you being able to hear Him."
Sometimes it's what's beaten out of us that causes an inablity to trust without reason.
I was once called an ass-wipe and it was allowed.
Just as well, I viewed it as a promotion.
omg, today is the forum's 12th birthday !.
omg x 2 - i said the word 'birthday' and no-one was beheaded !
lol.
Well done Simon. Your forum was of great help to me when it first opened. To be able to talk with others who had shared a similar experience was therapeutic. I have moved on, but it is still a great place to have fun and share ideas.
Thanks for all your hard work. Happy 12th Birthday
lets's go!!.
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suffocating.
Embarrassed
as i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
Wow outsmartthesystem! That’s an impressive piece of typing: how many hands have you got?
I was going to wait before posting this delightful riddle for all you seekers of truth. With Armageddon so close, I decided that it would ‘behove’ me to post it now in case I meet my demise before I can post. While being mindful of the clear and unambiguous explanations from djeggnog:
How many groups of varying ages, that overlap but are not allowed to be called generations, although they include younger anointed contemporaries and older anointed ones who discerned the sign, does it take to constitute one generation that will not die off before the great tribulation starts?
Answers on an old Watchtower please.
as i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
djeggnog I have just returned from a party organized by my demons to find, to my surprise, that this thread is still running. Early in this debate you said:
“Jehovah's Witnesses have never predicted the arrival of Armageddon, especially in view of the fact that we have always taught what Jesus himself taught at Matthew 24:36, namely, that no one knows "that day and hour." How could Jehovah's Witnesses have moved a date that they have never known, let alone set?”
How about this?
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the "last days" in 1914, Jesus foretold: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."-Matt. 24:34. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"
Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
Now I didn’t actually say the Watchtower Society had set a date, I simply quoted from the No need to stay Awake! And inferred that they had. I learnt this neat little trick by reading Watchtowers.
here are two uplifting quotes from the latest awake that show the happiness one might enjoy as a member of god's spirit-directed organization:.
the illustration on that page showed me that my progress is noticed by god.
this book made me realize that i can make my prayers more specific and ask god to help me with my feelings of worthlessness.
It seems likely that Watchtower Society's indoctrination is responsible for feelings of worthlessness.
Such feelings are one of the hallmarks of a cult.
some time ago i was granted some understanding about 'armageddon', and so i am sharing it with you.
i should have shared it when i first received it from our lord.. there is nothing to fear if you are not riding out to make war against someone.
satan deceives the nations and gets them to march against those who belong to christ and god.
I see John’s Revelation and Armageddon as an earlier version of War of the Worlds, a science fiction novel by Herbert George Wells 1898. The psyche of humans tends to conjure up what is generally called Invasion literature. It symbolises our deeper fears and insecurities.
A king on a white horse with a sword protruding from his mouth, that he uses to smite his enemies, is far out man. It could be seen by Freudians as a rather phallic power symbol. My personal fantasies are of an entirely different nature, but that would be telling.
isn't it funny / curious that people are always afraid of what satan will or will not do, when, in the end, it's jehovah of the armies that will annihilate you at armageddon?.
Thanks Tammy - I shall take a look at the new thread you have started.
Glad
isn't it funny / curious that people are always afraid of what satan will or will not do, when, in the end, it's jehovah of the armies that will annihilate you at armageddon?.
Tammy - Most Christians view the Revelation to John as an imponderable hallucination. Some have even been unkind enough to suggest he was high on opium at the time.
I am curious as to why, of all the parts of the Bible that you say are not inspired, you have chosen to get your information about Armageddon from such a dubious source. Personally, I prefer to use a more reliable source.
Alice in Wonderland is my favourite.
